No clear winner so race goes on!
February 6, 2008
This has to be one of the most spirited US primary presidential elections to date. What should have been the deciding factor about the nominations for the US presidency in both parties has now turned into an ongoing battle.
Although Obama leads with 11 states he still doesn’t have enough delegates to be a front runner. Hillary Clinton’s big wins in key states like Califonia and New York with large numbers of delegates have ensured that she is still in this race – She won nine states.
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The Republicans are shockingly now running a three man race. Mike Huckabee who was initially ruled out as a contender in the race has shocked everyone by winning 5 states. John Mccain, who I’m sure thought he was going to be declared the nominating candidate, only won nine states and now has a fight on his hands with Huckabee and also Mitt Romney who took six states.
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It’s been a historic night! Super Tuesday should have given a clear idea of the presidential nomination in both parties but this race could go on up until April.
I’m heading on to New Orleans today which should be interesting!
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February 6, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Hillary is the CLEAR winner! As long as CNN keeps on deciding to play the BIG GATEKEEPER, citizens in this country will more likely stay highly misinformed. CNN’s Delegates Estimate looks like primary school MATH. Why aren’t they providing information about California’s Delegates Count? Even in Missouri, where the gap between Senator Obama and Senator Clinton favors the former, she carried more delegates as she becomes the clear leader among citizens who live in rural areas and those who make less than U$50.000/year (that sounds like former Senator Edwards’s votes to me!!!). Hillary WON THE key State of California. No matter how you look at it and how much longer CNN (and other pundits from NBC as well) refuses to acknowledge that there was NOT such SPLIT between candidates in terms of delegates and in terms of being able to prove electability in multi-ethnic/cultural states such as New York and California. It would be wise to acknowledge how well she did despite the glamorizing of endorsements “Press Operation” mounted by Senator Obama’s Campaign with the fierce contribution of the so-called progressive Media. CNN’s gatekeeping skills are scary!! Last evening, while they were broadcasting Senator Obama’s speech (which, by the way, was a very generous 20 min. of TV-time – -way over what any other candidates’ speeches on either side of the aisle took and/or was covered by-), they “coincidentally” announced he had just won two more states. Timely reporting skills?! Come on! For at least one of those two states, the percentage of precincts reporting had stayed at 73% for the immediate preceding 30 minutes before Senator Obama’s speech and it was actually the same % (and actual number of precincts)at the time CNN decided to “PROJECT” Senator Obama would take that state. Laughable!! No matter the GATEKEEPING skills, WE KNOW, WE DO KNOW HILLARY CARRIED California and WON in EVERY SINGLE COUNTY. Why don’t you talk about that? EVERY SINGLE COUNTY. Have a great DAY!!!
February 6, 2008 at 5:39 pm
Javier, while I am not disagreeing with you, me being completely spineless and uninformed, I must say that a wall of text combined with random CAPITALIZATION just makes you look insane.
February 6, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Well, I think that you are wrong, take a look at the percentage won by Obama vs Clinton and you will clearly see that IF delegates are assigned proportionally, Obama would get more delegates and is the clear winner, but for some reason Clinton gets 4-10% more delegates than she should in all states she won. Hmmm…
February 6, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Thank you for the tip about CAPITALIZATION. I appreciate it. However, the CAPITALIZED sections/words are intended. Take care.
February 6, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Javier, I think you need to look at the final results for the California counties yourself. In fact I counted that Obama won 18 of the 58 counties in California. I found these results on the MSNBC website, but you might be able to find these results on CNN.com as well. Please look up the results for yourself.
February 6, 2008 at 6:12 pm
AJS: Thank you. You are right! I just checked and Obama did win 17/18 counties out of 57. Earlier, I had counted the Check Marks for projected winner on CNN County Results Chart as if they were highlighting the Winner for the County. Actually, the Check Mark highlights the Winner of the State. My mistake. Overall, my point relied on: a) how the California Delegates that Hillary will carry are not showing (in full) in the Delegates Estimate that CNN and MSNBC have put together; and b) the biased coverage (agenda setting) by the so-called progressive media. Thank you again for calling me out on the County Results.
February 6, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Nikita, I think that may have something to do with superdelegates in those states? Clearly, Obama has won the popular vote thus far, but because many more superdelegates (mostly other politicians) have voted for Clinton, she is winning at this point in terms of total delegates.
February 6, 2008 at 7:44 pm
I looked at it a little more closely, and Obama squeaks out the popular vote (if we do not include Michigan and Florida, and right now the DNC is not) by about 80,000 votes, yet Clinton has several more pledged delegates than Obama. This does not make straightforward mathematical sense to me, so it must be some way of calculating that I do not understand.
February 7, 2008 at 6:51 am
It’s about the Red States and the Blue States! I like Obama, but as much as he would like it not to matter he did not win in many swing states.
Almost every state he won is a “RED” state; meaning that even if every Democrat and left leaning Idependent votes for the Democratic Nominee, the Republican still wins.
It would be a different story if the numbers suggested that there were large numbers of Republicans voting for Obama, but they do not indicate that.
Clinton won by incredibly large margins in swing states and she took the traditional Democratics states by healthy margins.
In order for Democrats to win in November, Hillary will have to be on top of the ticket.. and Obama better be on for VP or we can hang up the African American vote.
I wish the reality were that suddenly we could all just get along, but please people, GET REAL. If not, we will lose again.
February 7, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Hillary is the clear winner, people voting want change thats great, but change cannot come without the experience. Do we really want a leader who has only been in politics for a few years. Obama is to general and smug. That is not what this country needs, we already have someone smug leading. The African American, Latino vote came out in record numbers, but they wanted to make statements, they won’t be around in Nov.
February 7, 2008 at 1:58 pm
It’ll come down to the so called super Delegates. If Clinton has the assurances it looks like she has the race may already be over.
The question the remaining Democratic Delegates (super or otherwise) should really be asking themselves is who can beat McCain, Clinton or Obama?